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Ubuntu 7.10 Better Hardware Detection then XP/Vista
« on: October 19, 2007, 05:00:41 PM »
When i got my laptop in early 2005 it came with a wireless PCMCIA card (BT Voyager 1065) - Chipset Broadcom 4318 found out by Ubuntu 7.04 command. As some of you know that chipset is possibly hardest to get working right at 54mbs (g) not 11mbs (b). After a month of ubuntu only i when back to Windows XP as had few projects to do on .Net and wireless was flaky. So though i would wait till 7.10 and try again.

Hearing the restricted manager would get drivers easily for the 4318 Card i though it looks pretty good. So i downloaded 7.10 yesterday and for some reason i removed my BT Voyager Card before booting off the CD. After a few minutes of booting it came to what i expected but one thing i did not expect was it too pick up my wireless network and neighbours wireless without the PCMCIA card as i tried Windows XP when first got the laptop too see if it had wireless it did not seem to so installed the card and worked perfectly.
So still wondering what built wireless it had found i when to device manager and found it was a RT2500 MINI PCI so put in my password for my WPA-PSK network and connect perfectly at 54mbs what i been used to on wireless with a extra card.

Overall "out of box" was perfect - Rundown below

The Good


Found more hardware then following Windows Versions out of box*
Found Wireless which works as well or better then the PCMCIA card*
Touchpad worked better (side allowing up and down) (did not work OOB in 7.04)
Compiz Fusion (Who does not like eye candy  :D )
Faster then XP* or Vista* and used less RAM as well
Shortcut keys worked e.g. brightness (fn+F6)
All pre-installed software e.g. OpenOffice, Pidgin, Firefox


The Bad


Seem i was getting less battery time on 7.10 then 7.04


The Ugly


Not a fan of the brown and orange "human" theme

Overall 9/10 (As nothing is perfect)

P.S If i don't replay to this thread or any other for next week that is because i will be away on Holiday with no internet

See you in a week  B)

*Windows XP SP2 All Updates
*Windows Vista RC1/RC2 
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Re: Ubuntu 7.10 Better Hardware Detection then XP/Vista
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2007, 08:35:21 PM »
I'm glad to hear that worked so well for you. My big complaint with Ubuntu is that it won't let me easily adjust my native resolution of my monitor. I have a widescreen monitor, but it doesn't recognize it as so. It requires some extra work on my part to get my ATI drivers installed and the resolution set correctly.

I actually like the brown and orange "human" theme.  O0
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Re: Ubuntu 7.10 Better Hardware Detection then XP/Vista
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2007, 02:45:17 AM »
Not a fan of the brown and orange "human" theme
You might want to take a look at this: http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=high&page=0&xcontentmode=101

If you find a theme you like, save it on your desktop, go to System > Preferences > Themes (I'm not sure about that though, I'm using a Dutch version of Ubuntu) and finally drag the .tar.gz file to the themes container on the Theme tab(screenshot). You can also combine theme elements (icons, window borders, etc.) with each other by clicking Customize.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2007, 02:56:08 AM by Pieter De Decker »
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Re: Ubuntu 7.10 Better Hardware Detection then XP/Vista
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2007, 01:47:47 PM »
Would use it if Creative bothered to make Linux drivers for my X-Fi sound card. It does not work at all on any Linux.
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Re: Ubuntu 7.10 Better Hardware Detection then XP/Vista
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2007, 03:45:48 PM »
You might want to take a look at this: http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=high&page=0&xcontentmode=101
You know what I find funny is that the most popular themes for both browsers and operating systems are always to make them look like another operating system. When I got Ubuntu 7.10 installed the other day I decided to checkout the themes again, and the top ones make Ubuntu look like a Mac or like Vista. Just like how everyone wants to make their browser look like a different browser (such as Firefox users installing an IE 7 theme). It's madness I tell you!
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Re: Ubuntu 7.10 Better Hardware Detection then XP/Vista
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2007, 12:51:15 PM »
Back from holiday and installed 7.10. What can say but bloody amazing. Out of Box Compiz Fusion on ATI Card using free drivers. installed ms fonts and xml files for sharper and clearer texts so its like XP. Faster and smoother, nothing else i can say but got say well done to people of linux community by creating such program like Compiz Fusion.

Showed my dad and mum (whole life using XP) but using firefox since 1.0.2 (something like that because i set as there default browser) they were amazed and it was even better as there was ad for Vista showing off 3d flip just before tea(evening meal)  O0
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Re: Ubuntu 7.10 Better Hardware Detection then XP/Vista
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2007, 01:19:33 PM »
Wow, still using Firefox 1.0.2! Now that's crazy. ;)
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Re: Ubuntu 7.10 Better Hardware Detection then XP/Vista
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2007, 01:24:11 PM »
Wow, still using Firefox 1.0.2! Now that's crazy. ;)

Obliviously its 2.0.0.8 (Latest) due to automatic updates. No need for Vista, I will save the cash for something better
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Re: Ubuntu 7.10 Better Hardware Detection then XP/Vista
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2007, 01:27:47 PM »
Oops, I read that wrong. I thought you said you set them up with that, and that they were still using it. That would have been funny. ;) And actually Automatic Updates didn't make their way into Firefox until version 1.5.
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Re: Ubuntu 7.10 Better Hardware Detection then XP/Vista
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2007, 01:45:04 PM »
I would like to set up a dual boot with Ubuntu 7.10 and I am thinking about using Wubi. Anyone have any experience with this?
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Re: Ubuntu 7.10 Better Hardware Detection then XP/Vista
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2007, 09:17:26 AM »
I would like to set up a dual boot with Ubuntu 7.10 and I am thinking about using Wubi. Anyone have any experience with this?

Wubi is still in beta status i think so would use the normal method and allow ubuntu to create a 20gb or smaller.
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Re: Ubuntu 7.10 Better Hardware Detection then XP/Vista
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2007, 10:25:40 AM »
I haven't used Wubi myself yet because Vista let me shrink my Windows partition, and because of that I didn't need it to partition my drive. Then I was able to install Ubuntu to that leftover space.
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Re: Ubuntu 7.10 Better Hardware Detection then XP/Vista
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2007, 10:49:55 AM »
I just received an Ubuntu 7.10 CD from Canonical Corp. which I can use it through my CD player without installing it on my hard disk.  Everything worked like a breeze, except my Internet connection.  There is no way I can configure Mozilla Firefox with my ISP.

I called my ISP (Cable & Wireless) asking for help, but they were more confused than I was, so I decided to ask for help here.  This is the information I have come up with in case you need it:

1.  Type of address assigned by DHCP
1.1.  255.255.255.128 (Sub-Net)
1.2.  201.226.117.254 (Link Port)

2.  DHCP Server:  206.128.192.28
3.  DNS Server:  201.225.225.225
4.  Physical Address:  00-13-49-03-6C-19

I have a ADSL connection which uses a USB Modem from ZyXEL Communicaations Corp.  The software version of the modem's controller is 29072.099.080.000.  My Internet bandwidth is 1,024 kbps.  My default operating system is Windows XP/SP3 with 768 MB of RAM.

I'm an educator with very little knowledge of Internet connections; therefore above information is Chinese to me.  I understand I have to make some tweaking to my Ubuntu software in the System Menu.  Can you please baby guide me to configure my software to my Internet connections?

I'm very excited to use Linux.  Thank you for your assistance.

Omar.-
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Re: Ubuntu 7.10 Better Hardware Detection then XP/Vista
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2007, 06:48:18 PM »
WOW I am confused as well. I am not sure that any of the information that you provided is helpful in this situation. My guess is that Ubuntu does not have the proper drivers for your network adapter. If this is the case you will need to find the drivers and install them yourself. This is not an easy task in Linux, even on Ubuntu. Can you provide some information on your network card?
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Re: Ubuntu 7.10 Better Hardware Detection then XP/Vista
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2007, 08:41:13 PM »
The key thing that I pulled out of the information you provided was the type of modem you have. I'm guessing that Ubuntu doesn't ship with the drivers needed for that modem. I searched around a bit and came up with this article which describes how to install firmware for a ZyXEL ADSL modem:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/AccessRunner
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